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Alan Wadsworth
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Murrain

Post by Alan Wadsworth » 09 Jun 2018, 08:39

I am looking for an academically-respectable reference for the definition of "murrain" - something other than Wikipedia!

Thanks, Alan

rwhoyle
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Re: Murrain

Post by rwhoyle » 09 Jun 2018, 13:11

Murrain at what date?

Alan Wadsworth
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Re: Murrain

Post by Alan Wadsworth » 09 Jun 2018, 16:04

5 May 1830

carole
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Re: Murrain

Post by carole » 30 Aug 2018, 10:07

Hello.

May I suggest you search for Rinderpest or Cattle Plague

Between 1865-7 it was a national disaster in England, the virus came here on a ship from the Baltic.

Some info here http://post.queensu.ca/~forsdyke/rindpst0.htm

and here https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3477853/

Alan Wadsworth
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Re: Murrain

Post by Alan Wadsworth » 30 Aug 2018, 14:57

Thanks Carole,

I am aware that murrain is often referred to as rinderpest or cattle plague, but you are suggesting that this is 1865-87, whereas I have a reference to Murrain dated 1830 ...

Alan

Greenwood
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Re: Murrain

Post by Greenwood » 09 Oct 2018, 15:17

Murrain, according to the Shorter OED, means an infectious plague, derived from the root of 'mourir'. Its use for a specifically animal plague is dated from 1613; therein lies the problem as it was used for different diseases by different authors at different times. The only common factor is its appearance as a widespread infectious or contagious disease.
Thus, throughout the 18thC it mainly referred to the repeated outbreaks of rinderpest, whereas, in the mid-19thC Youatt in his 'Cattle' described it as an epidemic respiratory disease 'epidemic catarrh'. Downing, in 1807 in his Treatise on Diseases of Horned Cattle, used it to describe blackleg (now clostridial myositis) in calves, and there are many other uses.
In summary, what it means varies with the author.
What was your 1830 reference?

Alan Wadsworth
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Re: Murrain

Post by Alan Wadsworth » 09 Oct 2018, 15:50

Thanks Greenwood,

The source was a diary of a farmer in Wiltshire - I suspect that if an animal died of anything which they couldn't identify, then it was clearly the murrain that had killed them!

Tony Pratt
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Re: Murrain

Post by Tony Pratt » 10 Oct 2018, 16:40

Hi Alan,

Greenwood beat me to the post by about an hour lol. I was fascinated to see that your reference was to a farming diary from Wiltshire albeit in 1830. I am currently researching the 1865-7 Cattle Plague and farming diaries will, hopefully, form one of the information sources I can use. I had a look through the W&SHC catalogue for diaries but limited to the research period..... I was wondering if you might be able to tell me where the diary is located and whether I might be able to see it?
Thanks

Tony

rwhoyle
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Re: Murrain

Post by rwhoyle » 12 Oct 2018, 17:29

Dear Alan,

To re-enter the fray on this after Catherine was talking about another contributor's recent post, I wondered whether you had looked at the online newspapers. Murrain does not come up very often in the Wiltshire papers, but there are reports of a disease of cattle and pigs in Somerset in the vicinity of Bridgewater called murrain in the Dorset paper on 10 June 1830. This is then picked up by other newspapers, but disappears from sight after this one report. However, later in the year there is a report reprinted from the Farmer's Journal on 'Murrain in Cattle' which gives a detailed account of the symptoms and suggests treatments. So, something pretty virulent is circulating in parts of the west country in the Spring of 1830.

If you don't have subscription to Britishnewspapersonline, I can send you details from the papers direct..

Richard

Alan Wadsworth
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Re: Murrain

Post by Alan Wadsworth » 12 Oct 2018, 18:10

Dear Richard,

Thank you - yes, I do have a BNO subscription and from that and the diary, I would agree that there was something very virulent going round. However, references to murrain seem to end in August 1831.

Best wishes, Alan

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